Vatican envoy Archbishop Henryk Hoser was also appointed by the pope to oversee the care of pilgrims there, declaring in July 2018 that thelittle village is a source of grace for the whole world.In a personalconversation withBishop Pavel Hnilica,Pope John Paul II stated, Medjugorjeis a continuation, an extension of Fatima. To date, theapparitions and accompanying graces have producedover four hundred documented healings, hundreds of vocations to the priesthood, thousands of ministriesworldwide, and countless and often dramatic conversions. How one feels personally about the issue at hand has absolutely nothing to do with how the conscience operates. This first happened, she shared, on Good Friday: Our Lord asked me if I wanted to participate in His sufferings. If you had to use inclusive language in Spanish or Italian, for example, you wouldn't be able to talk. LACKAWANNA OLV National Shrine & Basilica is hosting the premiere of the EWTN's documentary "They Might Be Saints: Venerable Nelson Baker" on Feb. 16 - Father Baker's 180th birthday! So that as Christ's body took it's existence from her body, she ought to share in his bodily glorification. Only at the end, when rereading, do I understand the meaning of the entirety of the words dictated to me more or less quickly in a theological language that I do not understand. In 1948, the Communist Nationalization of Hungary was a harsh master, and she was fired from her first job for having a statue of the Blessed Mother in her home. A lot of people struggle with the things you mention. the design of Gods Justice, can still be changed by the power of His merciful Love. I am loyal to Rome. They warn the world of coming tribulations: communism and its coming peak; war and the use of nuclear weapons; pollution, famine, and plagues; revolution, social unrest, and moral depravity; a schism in the Church; the fall of the world economy; the public appearance and world domination of the antichrist; the fulfillment of the Warning, the Miracle, and the chastisements; the fall of an asteroid, and the change of terrestrial geography, among other messages. In particular, how could Pedro Regis have imagined the extensive message #458, which he received publicly while kneeling for nearly two hours on November 2, 1991? The children were received and blessed by Mgr Dominik Toth of the Trnava-Bratislava archdiocese, where an official inquiry was instigated on October 28, 1998. I give you my will; please give me Yours in return., Let Your Kingdom come. Tasks are assigned for each day of the week, which involve prayer, fasting, and night vigils, with beautiful promises attached to them, laced with special graces for priests and the souls in purgatory. Of course, there's no denying that there is a lot for us to learn about the Catholic Church and her deposit of faith, but that must be in the service of a more noble goal: that of our relationship with Jesus. I don't know what kind of things are being said about money in your parish; but, my personal opinion is that anyone who is putting less than $10 in the weekly collection has no right to complain when their pastor talks about money. She thought at one time that Sodom and Gomorrah were two people and that the Beatitudes were the name of a rock band. Fr. Is there injustice on God's part? 20:1115; 21:15). More disconcerting than the message itself were some of the explanations given by MMP members of just what this expected return would entail. She was, perhaps, what one would have called a typical Sunday-going Catholic who knew little about her faithand even less about the Bible. Since almost all people have no idea of what the true nature of conscience is, I'm sure that everyone will react negatively to this. There's a lesson in that, I think. On the 8th of May, 1972, Don Stefano Gobbi ("Don" being the common way of addressing priests in Italy), was taking part in a pilgrimage to Fatima and was praying in the little Chapel of the Apparitions for some priests he knew of who had left the priesthood and were forming themselves into an organization in rebellion against the Church's authority, when he seemed to hear an interior voice urging him to have confidence in the Immaculate Heart of Mary. While such a foreignNihil obstat does not, on its own, constitutein situ diocesan approval of the apparitions, it is certainly not insignificant. Mark Mary as he discussed the joys and struggles of being a young Christian in today's world with various guests, no longer airs weekly on EWTN, but can still be viewed on our YouTube channel. On March 26, 1994 he heard a voice saying Little son, write! Marco, dear son, do not be afraid, I am [your] Mother, write for all your brothers and sisters. I ask the Virgin Mary, Mother of God and Our Mother, to intercede for us so that the will of God be fulfilled, . Always a diligent worker, Elizabeth never had good fortune in her long string of short-lived jobs, as she struggled to feed her family. Edsons father, who was a violent alcoholic converted due to the influence of the apparitions was shortly to be found on his knees praying the Rosary in the early hours of the morning, and Our Lady said of a large piece of land that he owned belonged to her and to God. M., It has attracted the attention of specialist writers such as the well-known Italian journalist Saverio Gaeta, and has lately been the subject of a book-length study by researcher Annarita Magri. They married on May 25, 1930, when she was sixteen and he was thirty. This is perhaps best explained by the fact that, during Dom Carillo Grittis lifetime, the Itapiranga apparitions enjoyed an unusual degree of approval. Even still, Gisellas stigmata, her hemographic blood images, or bleeding statues should not, on their own, be taken as indicative of the visionarys sanctity such as to give hercarte blanchewith regard to all future activity. Our Lord make a conscious decision to entrust his Church to us, and we are simply not perfect. https://www.ildispariquotidiano.it/it/zaro-20-anni-di-apparizioni-fiaccolata-rosario-e-nuovo-messaggio/, Video documentary (Italian) including archival 1995 footage of the seers (among them Ciro Vespoli): Elizabeth Kindelmann . People who interpret conscience as "how I feel about it personally" will say that conscience excuses the use of contraception on the basis of personal opinion. | Irondale, AL 35210 | 1-800-447-3986 | viewer@ewtn.com Subj: Am I still a Catholic? The first is that the diocesan authorities are actively studying them and in 2014 established an official commission tasked, among other things, with collecting testimonies of healings and other fruits associated with the apparitions. 22h. Their unique role will be to partake in the sovereign earthly reign of Christ for this thousand-year period (5). Many times have I intervened in order to set back further and further in time the beginning of the great trial, for the purification of this poor humanity, now possessed and dominated by the spirits of evil.(#553). 252-253: Father Stefano Gobbi was born in Dongo, Italy, north of Milan in 1930 and died in 2011. . In proclaiming the dogma, Pius XII gave credence to an understanding of tradition that had been gaining momentum since the early 18th century. Several months later, Mary and Saint Michael the Archangel introduced her to Our Lord in a vision, and in time, Jesus and Mary would speak to her of coming events, such as the Warning. For the scripture says to Pharaoh, 'I have raised you up for the very purpose of showing my power in you, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.' Fr.. Rouxs letter continues: Prior to the publishing of the new Italian edition of the bookTo the Priests, Our Ladys Beloved Sons,the secretary from the CDF [presumably Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone], in a personal letter to Fr. Here in our own parish we have twice had to ask the teachers in our parish school to survive without their monthly pay because there was simply no money left with which to pay them (and our tuition is already far above what many in our working-class parish are able to afford). Gobbi is saying Christ will have his victory without the Last Judgment, while the Church teaches that Jesus' victory will actually "take the form of the Last Judgment." . This extraordinary charism is called locutions. This involves interior words that come, not from the mind in the form of thoughts, but from the heart, as if a voice spoke them from within. In each revelation given to Luz de Mara, Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary guide the steps, the work, and the actions of the people of God in these times in which humanity needs to return to the teachings contained in Holy Scripture. To view Pedro sharing The messages he has received, click here. (It was this that attracted the attention of the national press to Zaro). Its contents can be found here: http://www.heartofmaryarabic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Blue-Book.pdf. I am pleased to have found you here on AOL. A conscience which has been misinformed, or is ignorant of the truth, cannot perform it's function and is therefore useless. Fr. Some people, when they read the meditations of Father Gobbi for the first time, become unduly alarmed by their apocalyptic character. Fr. Stefano Gobbi #604 Milan (Italy); December 31, 1997. Or is it a New-Age type of thing? . . Visionaries of Our Lady of Zaro. I had mentioned contraception in my Trinity Sunday homily as an example of a teaching to which we must submit even if we don't understand it or agree with it, in much the same way that we profess our faith in the Trinity, which we know we could never demonstrate. Longenecker. Do we imagine she would have it any other way? As for the possibility that Pedro Regis could have invented nearly 5000 messages over a period of nearly 33 years, it has to be asked what possible motivation he could have for doing so. But if, after having done all the appropriate homework, one is still in disagreement with the Church's teaching, one must follow one's conscience. It was indescribable pain, although I know that however painful it may be, it is not the totality of the pain that Christ continues to suffer for humanity. ((Revelamos Quen Es la Vidente Luz de Mara, Foros de la Virgen Mara, accessed July 13, 2019, https://forosdelavirgen.org/118869/luz-de-maria-reportaje)), It was on March 19 of 1992, that the Blessed Mother began to speak regularly to Luz de Mara. Indeed, I know many priests in the movement who definitely do not accept them as messages from Mary, but who, nonetheless, regard them as valuable aids to their own meditation. Knowing my concern, my friend brought me a copy of Fr. All rights reserved. People often don't realize that *all* parish expenseselectricity, water, gas, maintenance, clergy and lay staff salaries, about 2/3 the expense of running the school, and accident insurance on all buildings and propertymust be paid each and every month totally from what people drop in the collection basket on Sunday. She also requested that a chapel be built that still stands. Are you willing to accept this? Walter didnt know what this meantonly that he was being asked to be used somehow as Gods instrument. There are also annual retreats, some of which are preached by Father Gobbi himself. Since the dissolution of the body is the result of sin, and Mary was sinless, she must have been exempt from the common curse, and therefore her body did not corrupt in the grave. Seven months later, a statue of Our Lady of the Immaculate Heart in their home began to weep oil profusely (later, other sacred statues and images began oozing fragrant oil while a crucifix and statue of St. Pio bled. No, I need to make that decision right now, and Walter took off. Bernard's century, the twelfth, already awaited a Last World Emperor, an Angelic Pope, the Antichrist, and Doomsday. Gobbi worked tirelessly to fulfill the mission Our Lady entrusted to him. Stefano Gobbi have now begun. All this is not to frighten, but to urge man to turn his gaze toward God. Eventually, all of her children married, and in time, moved back in with her, bringing their children with them. Gobbi: Message 532 says we will see the new heavens and the new earth in the year 2000. Would you give me some of your thoughts on what could or should be done to correct this? Is this okay? In this Second Pentecost, the Spirit of Christ will penetrate ever soul so forcefully and thoroughly that in five-to fifteen minutes time, every person will see his or her life of sin. The Diocesan Administrator contacted the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and obtained a statement in 2017 to the effect that the CDF did not consider the apparitions supernatural in origin, a position also maintained by the Archdiocese of Manaus. Lay people are invited to join the movement as auxiliary members, uniting themselves in prayer with and for the priests of the Church. Their banner was recently blessed by Pope Francis. Together, they had six children, and after sixteen years of marriage, her husband died. The Rev. (It is Don Ciro who, at least until recently, would read out the messages written down by Simona and Angela after they emerged from their supposed ecstasies or resting in the Spiritriposo nello Spirito). Fr. Thus sinners will come back to grace and holiness; the . For an inspirational read of amazing conversions as a result of the Medjugorje apparitions and to read an account of the very first apparitions, see the best-sellers, FULL OF GRACE: Miraculous Stories of Healing and Conversion through Marys Intercession and OF MEN AND MARY: How Six Men Won the Greatest Battle of Their Lives. Quite naturally, this work makes use of certain instruments; and in a particular way, Don Stefano Gobbi has been chosen. Some of these have been dismissed by the Church (Montichiari, Ghiaie di Bonate, Biding, Kerizinen), but have nonetheless attracted growing interest on the part of serious researchers concerned with establishing historical truth and rehabilitating mystics who may have been unjustly condemned. The new edition of the NAB has included some elements of "inclusive language," but it is not proper for a lector, priest, or anyone else to change what he finds in the text on his own authority. Nothing and no one can stop it. They will have lost the occasion to be saved. The issue of stewardship is a very neglected part of Catholic education, and we often forget that one of the precepts of the Church is to contribute financially to her ongoing mission. These phenomena, when the sun appears to rotate, flash or be transformed into a Eucharistic Host, clearly cannot be faked by human means, and being recorded (albeit imperfectly) on camera, are also evidently not merely the fruit of collective hallucination. One must use one's God-given-gift of reason to assess the truth of even a teaching of the Church; and if one determines conscientiously that a teaching is erroneous, one must not follow it. The Virgin Mary identified herself as the Queen of the Rosary and of Peace, and the messages often emphasized praying the Rosary dailyin particular the family rosary, turning off the television, going to Confession, Eucharistic Adoration, the confirmation that the true Church is the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church, and that a torrent of chastisements are soon approaching. I am reading a book that quotes him often. I have no objection to the inclusive elements in it. This will happen when my apparitions here at Itapiranga will end. If I left the MMP but remained a member of St. Maximilian Kolbes Militia Immaculata, would I be a deserting our Ladys army? The existence of a considerable number of ongoing mystical phenomena accompanying Luz de Maria (stigmatization, crucifixes bleeding in her presence, religious images exuding oil). Take 2 with Jerry & Debbie -Unscripted for February -02/24/23. In her messages given to Fr. He replied that, after all, I prepared my homilies. One of those images is now hanging in the Marian Center located at the Divine Mercy Shrine in Massachusetts). does not constitute an official pronouncement., But when a highly placed authority in the CDF asks that the locutions not be presented as messages from Mary but as Fr. The Marian messages to Father Gobbi seem to warn that this event (and afterwards a promised Miracle and also a Chastisement or Punishment) were to occur at the end of the twentieth century. One priest makes spelling corrections, then another gives the messages a final review before uploading them to the website, www.revelacionesmarianas.com, to be shared with the world. With this attachment to the movement and the people in it, it is difficult for them to seeor more precisely, to bewillingto seeits defects. Catechism: After the universal judgment. However, Fr. Every week I absolve the sins of people who are much less sinful than myself. Each time is like the first.. The Marian Movement of Priests (MMP) is a private association of Catholic clergy and lay associate members founded by Italian priest Fr. It was designed to counter doubts about the validity of the messages, but, in order to do so, it was necessary to include those statements that gave rise to the concerns in the first place. The commission overwhelminglyvoted infavorof recognizing the supernatural nature of the first seven apparitions. . It is the realization of the Our Father prayer in the soul, that Gods Will be done in you just as it is done by the saints in Heaven. . Together with my blessing, I express my best wishes for the Words of Heaven contained here to resonate in every creature of good will. Subj: Changing scripture Date: 94-06-26 22:22:27 EDT From: Jerome. What does the Church have to say about these messages? Howeverand this is importantFather Gobbi does not require any priest in the movement to accept these meditations as authentic messages from Our Blessed Mother, and leaves that judgment up to the authority of the Church, which, so far, has not chosen to rule on the question. Elizabeth Sznt was a Hungarian mystic born in Budapest in 1913, who lived a life of poverty and hardship. Elizabeths profound prayer life led her to become a lay Carmelite, and in 1958 at age forty-five, she entered a three-year-period of spiritual darkness. 3:7). Dermine with respect to the general question of contemporary private revelation, it quickly becomes apparent that he has a theologicala prioriagainst any prophecy (such as the writings of Fr. This important teachingthat the ordinary magisterium, as well as the extra-ordinary, exercises infallibility in certain conditions, is not new. He says that those who remain in the movement are the ones who will go to battle with our Lady; while those who opt out are deceived by the spirit of the world.. November 5, 2019 Editor. Gobbi had boarded over 350 air flights and taken numerous journeys by car and train, visiting five continents several times over. Born in 1972 in Itajai in the state of Santa Catarina in Brazil, Eduardo Ferreira found an image of Our Lady of Aparecida in the courtyard of the family house on January 6, 1983. (Trevignano Romano miracolo del sole 3 gennaio 2020/Trevignano Romanos miracle of the sun, January 3, 2020). In a follow-up meeting, Msgr. Thanks Fr. I hope this answers your question; thanks for posting. The Apostles themselves struggled with this, and ultimately imposed a rather strict form of stewardship on the brethren, in which they shared all things in common. He had heard stories about Padre Pio being a "gruff saint" because of how he would interact with the penitent in the confessional, he said. The wife had been prompted interiorly to start a rosary group after experiencing her first Divine Mercy novena. Just as she took part in the struggle of her only-begotten Son with the serpent of hell, so also she shared in his glorious triumph over sin and its sad consequences" (Fulgens Corona, 21). Fr. Apparitions subsequently occurred almost daily until January 1, 1996, two months after the first message from Jesus in a hospital where Eduardo was working as a nurse. Only thus will the Our Father prayer truly be fulfilled; and this prayer, the greatest prayer ever prayed, is a sure prophecy uttered by the lips of the Son of God. Gobbi] still unequivocally affirms and continues to maintain . Moral theologians refer to this as invincible ignorance, that is, a conscience which is in error about the truth. In the passage in question, Paul points out how all of the events leading up to Israel's election as God's chosen people all happened because of the simple choice of God, and not by any merit on the part of the Hebrews as a people. On October 12, 1987, four days after his first communion, Eduardo and his sister Eliete were praying in front of this image when Eduardo saw a blue light emerging from it and illuminating the room. Pray, pray, pray!. Its contents can be found here: http://www.heartofmaryarabic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Blue-Book.pdf. In 1990, she received a miraculous healing from an illness, coinciding with both a visitation from the Blessed Mother and a new and more public calling to share her mystical experiences. Copyright 2023 Eternal Word Television Network, Inc. Irondale, Alabama. He gathered them into a book, To the Priests: Our Lady's Beloved Sons, and presented it to the Marian Movement. Martin Gavenda who would become the main seer of the apparitions saw a white light and a female figure who said that she wanted to use him for Gods plans. Pope . Fr Gobbi is of course not the only person to have ever received 'interior locutions'; they have been received by many of the Church's great mystics. Does the church or bishops approve of his writings? On a much more subjective note, remember that the debate over inclusive language is largely an American phenomenon. For example, of what practical value could it be to spend the opening lines of one's homily explaining how our reading from Isaiah wasn't written by him at all, but is from "Dueturo-Isaiah," or that the sermon on the mount is really a collection of sayings, not necessarily spoken at any one time? On June 19, 2013, Pope Francis gave it his Apostolic Blessing. [Message #389] The messages of Our Lady of Good Success also mention that some of these events will occur in the twentieth century. So what explains this discrepancy in the worlds timeline? Simply put, the Church does not define conscience as you do. Ive laid out some major points of comparison so you can see for yourself. To me it seems to have had its roots in superstition, and a belief on the part of the faithful that Christ is some how unapproachable. On October 4, 1996, appearing in front of the cross on the mountain next to the chapel, the Virgin said: Beloved son, I wish to tell you this afternoon and to tell all my children the importance to live the messages. I will obey anything they say. That judgment may be "misinformed" (through no fault of its own), but conscience, in making its judgment according to the intellectual lights the person has, does what conscience is meant to do. Dear Father, Could you please tell me a little about "Centering Prayer"for instance, I'm a devout Catholic who is presently a postulant in a Secular Institute, and our director is STRONGLY urging us all to understand, accept and start practicing the activity of Centering Prayer, complete with its 'breathing techniques', etc. For anyone who loves the truth and the Church, what else needs to be said? Therefore, we can surely be certain that the Lord will appear and return to this earth for a period of time before the final end of the world (6). See All Plans. Whenever these numbers become available to Countdown to the Kingdom, we will make them available here. A month later, Elizabeth was scheduled to board a train from Austria at 10:00 a.m. in order to return to the Swiss family who decided to adopt her. In this time of grace, Satan wants to seduce you; but you, little children, keep looking at my Son and follow Him towards Calvary in renunciation and fasting. In this Second Pentecost, the Spirit of Christ will penetrate ever soul so forcefully and thoroughly that in five-to fifteen minutes time, every person will see his or her life of sin. There are really two questions to be answered here regarding centering prayer: (1) whether the method itself is compatible with authentic Christian spirituality, and (2) whether such a method is advised for a particular person. Gobbi himself says, "No locution, not even such as are gathered together in this book, could take the place of, or be put on a par with, an official public statement of the faith of the Church, from which the complete physiognomy of Mary and her mission will become apparent." Subj: Preaching Date: 93-06-05 06:16:56 EDT From: Joshua. Gobbi says, at some other final coming (cf. When I went to my friend with what Id read, she was somewhat shaken, since Fr. Thank you for replying so quickly! Taking their cues from Patristic teaching, speculation, holy prophecies, and. Gobbi} and also has a great Q&A session following. Elizabeths answer was Yes, and through her, Jesus and Mary began a Church movement under a new name given to that immense and eternal love that Mary has for all her children: The Flame of Love.. Gobbis locutions as Marys messages, I began to have other reasons to wonder about the MMP. For the greatest possible glorification of her virgin body is the complement, at once appropriate and marvelous, of the absolute innocence of her soul, which was free from all stain. . Which brings me to your next point: "Not everything taught by the Church's hierarchy is free from error, and it is possible to dissent from authoritative, but non-infallible teachings." Another English translation can be found at her English site here:http://keepwatchwithme.org/?p=22. Gobbis locutions had already been investigated and approved by the Church? And I know that there are many people in my parish who believe I would be a better priest if I did things the way they wanted. Our Lady showed heaven, hell and purgatory to Edson, and along with her Son, gave various teachings for families to Maria do Carmo. for a Priest to read the Gospel from an "all inclusive" text? There . . Following Turzovka (1958-1962) and Litmanova (1990-1995), the village of Dechtice is the third modern apparition site in Slovakia, where scientifically unexplained events began on December 4, 1994. . . Centering prayer is nothing new to Christian spirituality, and was first popularized as part of the "devotio moderna" of the late middle ages, not without some criticism. . Part of dealing with this kind of situation is to recognize that we can't change those around us; we can only change ourselves. Stefano Gobbi in 1972. A priest who is not afraid of upsetting people with the truth can do great good. Many people have become confused about the notion of salvation they seem to find in Romans 9, which leads to confusion when taken out of the context of Paul's purpose; such was the case with John Calvin in the 16th century in formulating his doctrine of "predestination," which was the central teaching of his Reformed Church (more recently known as the Presbyterians) until the middle of this century, when they more or less abandoned the belief. Guided by these messages from heaven, Fr. Mary appears in these apparitions as Rosa Mystica, a title under which she appeared to nurse Pierina Gilli in Montichiari-Fontanelle (1947), an event to which the Brazilian apparitions to Eduardo and Junior refer repeatedly. But my initial reaction is to disagree with your statement, "She/he must educate her/his conscience in that regard, and if he/she finds that such an act is not sinful, then he/she must determine her/his conscience in the light of the Magisterium of the Church, who teaches otherwise." . It was a sensation of pleasure so strong that he wondered if he would have a heart attack, and so he pulled off the freeway. It would be nice if a welcoming and inviting sense of community could exude from every parish, but the fact is that it doesn't; and it can often be a great cross to learn to accept the human element in the Church for what it is. I put the word predestination in quotes because the meaning ascribed to it by Calvin means something entirely different when used by Catholics or most of the main-line Christian communities. Top EWTN, for its part, is trying to put the best spin on all of this, announcing new programming on its Catholic News Agency site with the headline: "2021 EWTN lineup will see new arrivals, some departures." Note: the "departures" were mentioned only in passing and with no explanation. The alleged Marian apparitions in Zaro di Ischia (an island near Naples in Italy) have been ongoing since 1994. The Catholic Church is the only major Christian denomination that continues to "nickel-and-dime" it's people for it's existence. Then too theres the misleading example of clergy who have lent their support to the MMP without investigating it or explaining to the people the need to make a distinction between what can be accepted without questione.g., the rosaryand what needs cautious discernment, i.e., the locutions.
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