Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? Shame! I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. How many Illinois politicians wind up going to jail? Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. AND started planning to move out of the state. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. Such a thing exists. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. Have you not been following this story? They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? Layoffs to follow. They profess innocence at this point, lets see if their actions match their words. Keyboard commandos wont fight it out on any battlefield. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Yuge. Good luck with that RRA. Its about the same price as an M1A. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. That is sooo repetitious! Are you aware it was Bill Ruger who testified before Congress that nobody needs more than 10 rounds? business or not your customers are your lively hood. Make it a campaign issue NOW. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. Accurate and precise for You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Im not buying a damn thing from Springfield and there is NO EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. This is income tax refund time. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Good luck! Ruger didnt compromise, they wrote the AWA and betrayed every American gun owner in a most serious way. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? The Ruger is berween $6-700. No Springfield guns for me. Grow the hell up and when you get some big boy panties and own your own business you will understand how it works. This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. Hugely disappointing. Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. Not now. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? Now Im off to call Cabelas and inform them of SAs treachery and why i will not buy from them as long as they carry SA product, http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?recordsPerPage=18&No=0&N=0&nl=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Springfield+Armory&search=Search. Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. Or cameras? When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. This companys name is Mudd. Heres a basic synopsis of the original company; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. What opinion? However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. This is why I said should not will. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. In the world of .308 Win. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. Henry and Ruger for the win. In the former case its a matter of not really understanding the client and in the latter its a case of assuming that its better to ask for forgiveness than to beg for permission. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. Imagine, a corrupt Illinois politician! In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. See below for more information. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. This says a lot about the people running the company. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber Ive never had better customer service with any other business. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. Oh, hell no, he told me. I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. CTD is my last choice. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. Im not ordering anything Springfield. I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. You are both dead to me now. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. Because of rumors of canceled orders. Cant beat that! Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. I used to love my Springfield XDM and M1a national match. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. Pennsylvania checking in. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. AR-15 Parts. (This is in response to Mark). Didnt you read this article? So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Great grip and trigger. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. We beat back a similar bill last year. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. I live in Illinois. Both Ruger and S&W learned from their mistakes, I do not know if these two can. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. That guy knows the M14 and M1a rifles. Then beg for forgiveness. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. Better sell that RRA while you still can. I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. I checked my order history. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. I got a 12 2a armament Mlok handguard from them for $148.97 and free shipping in September. Rock solid performer. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. All evidence to the contrary? Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. If they pull funding from the group well have some decent evidence that they didnt and dont support this carve out and are catching crap for something which they had no part in creating. Thanks Springfield. Which would help with elimination if in the future. With support like that, who needs Everytown? How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. Compare. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. Whats the hangup for SA? Ive refused to buy S&W products since then, with the sole exception of a Model 640 Pro .357 Magnum, which lacks the damned thing. Colona, IL (May 2020) Rock River Arms, one of the industry leaders in AR-platform firearms, expands its line of defensive semi-autos with the introduction of the RRAGE 10.5-inch pistol. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. I was just about to purchase a 1911 with the deal Springfield is running this week. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. 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