He did say there are some studies that DHEA and CoQ10 could help, but the, Hi all. Best of luck. We ended up refinancing our home and getting help from family. I will have retrieval hopefully this weekend and will let you know what happens. 2 expanded blasts on Day 6 were not biospied. I used two patches a dayandchanged the patches every third day. Thanks for sharing your story. My doctor will add human growth hormone during stims. After 2 years, tons of tests and 5 IVF cycles, it still feels unreal.Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. Has anyone who makes a good amount of eggs used this protocol? The deadline for sending in seeds was October 15th, but there are still plenty of ways to get involved. Around 50-60% of couples find success with IUI after 5 cycles, which is about a 10-20% success rate per cycle. Has anyone started a Jun fresh IVF group? This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. 1997-2023 BabyCenter, LLC, a Ziff Davis company. IVF #2, we did estrogen priming, Follistim, Menopur, Tev Tropin (human growth hormone), Cetrotide. Surprise spontaneous just 7 months postpartum while still breastfeeding!!! 6 responded, 5 retrieved, 3 fertilized normally, put all 3 back in at 3dpt - I am currently 27 weeks with one baby girl. This drug prompts the brain to release LH, the signal for ovulation, and is effective in helping to avoid OHSS. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. What affect did the epp have on your follicles? It would be great if it cleared up my skin because my skin has been terrible since my retrieval/chemical a few weeks ago! Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. Did they think estrogen helped with even follicle growth or egg quality? First, make sure your seeds are dry before sending them in. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. I just had my ER last week: stimmed for 13 days, started ganerilix on stim day 8, retreived 7 eggs, 3 were mature, 3 fertilized, 1 blastocyst was frozen today on day 5 and I have 2 morulas that will bhopefully be frozen tomorrow as long as they are blastocysts. I had 5 follicles but only one matured so I was converted to IUI which failed. Changed MD's and now this is the protocol they have in place for me. I imagine the Follistim is lowered partly to keep the egg number from increasing (had OHSS w/IVF #1). Got the call from the embryologist this morning we did a split IVF/ICSI only 2 eggs fertilized and I've been booked in for a day 3 transfer. They are concerned about egg quality. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. 14 retrieved, Beta 1117 I have hypothalamic anvolution, DH normal. Just not sure what type of protocol would be best. Then I started stims on a Friday. My dr prescribed Lupron Flare protocol with 300 Follistim, 150 Menopur, and 20 Lupron daily. Also covering add-ons like human growth hormone. So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). EPP results: 17 retrieved, 13 mature, 8 fertilized with PICSI, 2 hatching blasts on day 6 have been biopised. I did a phone consult with Sher and he suggested the conversion protocol to me as well. I think the stims usually last longer with EPP, but my quality was much better. By: Kelly Park
You still may have a BFP, so let's wait to see before we say it didn't work!! And finally I triggered with Novarel. First round I had few follicles 10 and scattered growth after taking bcp before cycles for about 13 days; Tried epp round after that, and had more synchronized growth with same number of follicles. The dose of gonadotropin matters because, generally speaking, if too little is prescribed, too few eggs are retrieved, and IVF success rates go down. View Full Term. So it's a low dose of Lupron, but not necessarily low doses of stims overall. Polyspermy refers to the fertilization of one egg with multiple sperm cells that result in the formation of an embryo with abnormal sets of chromosomes. The doctor just wants to make sure you dont release an egg while getting your body ready for a retrieval or transfer. One thing to keep in mind is that every cycle, there is a new cohort of follicles availble to be stimulated, meaning that during different months the same protocol may work more successfully than others simply due to the natural variation in available follicles. Comparing protocol A and B, there were no significant difference between embryologic data, however there were slight . Sadly, both my hatching blasts were abnormal. Estrogen/androgen priming protocol improves egg quality and . Transfer was canceled. HI.. hope all is well. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. This is done by administering estrogen, typically via an estrogen patch or an injection, sometimes along with additional Gonadotropin-releasing hormone. I hope a tweak of the protocol will help or maybe it was just an off cycle for me. I think you should ask your doctor though to make sure.Again, here is what happened to my protocolCycle day 1 - PeriodCycle day 24 (7 days post ovulation) - Start Estrace Cycle day 1 - Period Cycle day 2 - Last Estrace pill Cycle day 3 Blood work & ultrasound; antral follicle count. I also did estrogen priming with the mini. To conclude, in the group of patients . Of course, during a regular cycle most women naturally produce only a single mature egg. Initial was 12. Has anyone with failed IVF stim tried mini/micro IVF? In that time a womans hormonal balance has been restored and so IVF cycles using a frozen transfer are more likely to work. BFN. This is my first time posting and was hoping for some other stories like mine. Had my ER today - they got 15 eggs. It is used for low/poor responders -- often women with high FSH and/or over 35 years of age. Ultimately there are two protocol strategies doctors will use: either the Long Agonist or Antagonist protocols. Estrogen priming attempt #1, late December 2019: during the luteal phase of that now IUI cycle, I took oral estrogen. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Advertising Policy -
He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. Has anyone else had this, Hi peeps. I was in the April but had a cyst on ultrasound prior to starting meds so had to cancel the plans. This was my worst cycle ever only yielding 2 retrieved follicles that did not fertilize. For IVF #1 I did BCP followed by 150 follistim/150 menopur and I ended up with 31 eggs but the quality wasn't great. With this you get results by day-3 and can transfer embryos at that time. A third option, the Flare protocol is used less often and only in very specific patient types (often poor responders). The Ukrainian Tribute Growout is a great opportunity for tomato lovers to get their hands on some unique and delicious varieties. Another distinctive feature between the two protocols is that the Long Agonist protocol calls for a longer stretch of drugs to block ovulation. Im on this for 21 days starting on cycle day 1. Confirmed. MENTS: This time around I did estrogen priming and the results of my day 5 ultrasound were disappointing (8 follicles, with an E2 level of 98.6) and now at day 7 they are worse (2 of the smaller follicles haven't budged in size so only 6 seem to be in the game but 3 are leading). Thanks for sharing. Estrogen priming through luteal phase and stimulation phase improved ovarian responsiveness and this may lead to an increase in pregnancy rate in poor responders with failed cycle. This is the most commonly used protocol whose primary features are a shorter duration of injections and a far lower rate of OHSS, thanks to the ability to use Lupron as a trigger. One well regarded study determined that amongst most IVF patients, those taking over 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin had higher rates of success than those who took less. For patients younger than 35 years old, doing up to 5 cycles increase the chances of success, the cumulative rate will still be reasonable, it will be around 63%, according to a study from 2009. Estrogen Priming Protocol: In some women who respond poorly to the short protocol (e.g., women diagnosed with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)), this protocol may enhance ovarian response, perhaps by synchronizing more follicles for recruitment and retrieval. we did another one without BCPs and that also failed. I was long Lupron and that one was cancelled because my precious RE only saw very few follies. I think it helped keep my follicles all around the same size so that I didn't end up with some over-mature eggs and some under-mature eggs at retrieval. They studied what happens when you replace gonadotropin with clomid (a cheaper, less potent alternative) for a few days before the retrieval. Estrogen priming has worked both times for me. I am curious what anyone's experience has been with EPP. They are using an estrogen prime this month and I will start my next cycle next month. [Dr. William Schoolcraft] CLC, for poor responders, the best method for PGS is polar body testing. Both were immature. I will probably stim for 12-13 days! You can see my sig. Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 The data supporting the use of growth hormone in poor responders leading up to gonadotropin use is more convincing. It's not the same for everyone over 40. I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. I am interested in hearing from women who have never tried to get pregnant and therefore do not have any specific infertility issue per se, other than age. SG usually sticks to their protocol for the first round, then if it fails, they'll start customizing. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. I need to know if anyone has had a similar experience, but later got pregnant and where did you go. Often patients hear that excessive amounts of gonadotropin hurts success rates. So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. When do you start your next cycle? The answer lies in the drug the protocol uses to trigger the eggs to mature so that they can be retrieved. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. I'm now 19 wks pregnant with #2 from embryo from same batch. Good Morning. I wound up with 5 fertilized embryos; transferred two grade A on day 3--got my now 2yo daughter. Any 43+ Have Successful IVF with Own Egg? Below is data collected on over 3,000 cycles for each protocol approach in the Netherlands. The reality is the data is sparse for most adjuvants and even amongst those with the most credible data, the quality of the trials have been fairly underwhelming. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). As you can see below, success rates dropped. A flare cycle may involve OCP or estrogen-only pretreatment, but the key is that a GnRH agonist (Lupron, Suprefact, or Synarel) will be started at exactly the same time as the stimulating medication. Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? RE put me on Estrogen priming protocol, and I am on Lupron and Cetrotide as well.On Friday, (cycle day 6) the newer nurse thought she saw 11 follicles.. ranging from 5mm to 9mm.. now, Cycle day 9, the other nurse, who has been there forever, saw only 5 and she had a hard time locating my other ovary. Its effective, but expensive, and raises the risk of OHSS. For many gardeners, it starts with tomatoes. I understand the idea for the patch is to help time the growth of follicles vs. increase the number? In some cases, priming may not be required. Specifically, poor responders (a less than pleasant way of referring to women who produce few eggs per retrieval), do equally well taking 150 IUs of gonadotropin as 450 IUs. Time is of the essence and whatever information we have, we are happy to share to help you! Confirms hormone levels are baseline and gets antral follicle count as a basis for cycle prognosis. :) Keep us posted on your progress! Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. HiI'm new. Slightly higher doses of Follistim and Menopur to try to get a few more eggs. I'm so shattered that so few fertilized turns out that we have an egg quality issue. FertilitySmarts is a part of Janalta Interactive. Associate Director, REI Many REs swear by this for DOR. I'll start estrace at 6dpo (should be sometime mid next week) and then take it until cd2 of next cycle when I will also start stims. The dose of gonadotropin is typically measured in International Units Per Day and ranges from 0 - 900 with most IVF patients receiving 250 - 450 IUs per day. I had success on an EPP. IVF#1 with ICSI spring 2006 - 3 eggs retrieved, one transferred - BFN It's a horrifyingly traumatic experience. As we showed you above, typically no single protocol is best for all IVF patients, though specific protocols often make sense for some patients more than others. Several functions may not work. AMH 28. Now this is a guesstimated number. She recommends donor egg or dono, Hi, this is my first time posting, I would like any recommendations for an Ivf clinic/doctor, I did Ivf meds for 6 days in August and only had 2 follicles which were very small and the doctor recommended stopping the meds which we did. After it happens, I keep receiving bills in the mail. However, for poor responders many doctors worry such a long duration of suppression can hurt outcomes. Another gardener is pla. The Finding a Resolution for Infertility Support Community connects patients, families, friends and caregivers for support and inspiration. Yes, I did antagonist for IVF 1, 2 and 3. Ideally, between 15 - 20 mature eggs would be retrieved, though getting a number that high is uncommon. ET oct 2nd - 2 embryos transferred Once multiple follicles start growing, its important that they are not ovulated before they can be collected in an egg retrieval. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, Hello, Thus, for those most concerned with OHSS (like women with PCOS or high AFC or AMH), this can be an inferior option. Natural cycle is no meds to stim so u get 1 egg at best. The hypothesis is that if we treat patients prior to starting their IVF cycle with estrogens ( the estrogen priming protocol) or androgens ( such as DHEA) , they will produce more eggs because more follicles will be recruited when we start the superovulation . I credit the advice I received on this forum both from members and from experts, my infertility doctor and my push for the estrogen priming protocol for the family that I have today. I'm back from my appt and we are going with EPP. BabyCenter may earn a commission from shopping links. That patients must use an hCG trigger they cannot use Lupron as a trigger (because theyre already taking it) which is problematic because Lupron is the only trigger shot that fends off OHSS. I did have a decent response on the MDL and 100% fertilization with two good 5 day blasts. No BCP - started my period, did cycle day 2 testing FSH was good (I had high a FSH of 15 so EPP helped that) then started meds. I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. During the first two cycles I was on F, HelloHave been reading the boards, but have never posted. I have been diagnosed with low ovarian reserve. Good luck! I think you both are at Cornell (were) with this estrogen priming protocol will you try again with them, and request not to do estrogen priming? - Apply first estrogen patch. I went to a UK FSH friendly (thank you joy for the recommendation) clinic for a consultation. BFP October 22!!!! Thanks so much in advance! first u/s Nov 2nd, one little bean!!! An FSH drop-down protocol is used to 2. unfortunately, it was just an age issue, which i knew all along, but i had to try. Ganirelix is contraindicated in pregnancy. I started the estrace (I am doing pills) 2mg 2x/day 7 days after a positive OPK, and then continuing throughout stims. Ultimately, for only a handful of patient types has one protocol shown itself to be superior to the others and we profile those below. After my period started, my doctor kept me on the patches for five more days. My second included BCP before stimulating and I didnt stimulate well. Long Lupron cycle: 15 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 embryos at day 3, 2 hatching blasts on Day 6 were bioposied. Before starting the pills, we need to wait until you are in the correct stage of your menstrual cycle (the luteal phase). What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. This is the oldest IVF protocol and is especially effective in preventing premature ovulation during the cycle. I don't know why they didn't take, but I still think it is a good one to try. So there's one med w apositive side effect! However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. Buy Organic Seeds Risk Free From Organic Seeds TOP - Credit Card & Western Union Payment Options, Organic Seeds TOP is a seed vendor based in the Ukraine. TBD how many fertilize, etc. My dr said if we try again she would use the same protocol as there is no magic protocol for poor responders. While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to prevent OHSS, these patients dont have a strong reaction to the gonadotropins (hence their modest egg retrieval numbers) and are seldom at risk to be overstimulated. Estrogen is administered during the luteal phase of the previous menstrual cycle to "prime" the FSH receptors which enhances the response to FSH. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. i had success with DE. Thanks so much! Hi @cmugnolo, you have a similar situation to mine perhaps. November 8 - we're having twins:) Wow!!! As you can see in our summary below, there are multiple drugs that can perform these two functions the one thats chosen dictates the protocol strategy. 1) focus on the quality (not quantity) of eggs. Dr Sher says "oestrogen priming of FSH receptors has been reported to slow premature follicular development and to promote granulosa cell FSH receptor induction". Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. Babies due June 26, 2011 You may wonder how thats possible. I know this is old but was your period seriously delayed after estradiol patch? As you can see below, amongst women with PCOS, the Antagonist protocol drives comparable success rates but with far lower risk of hyperstimulation. 3rd IVF age 42 : Short protocal Menopur 375; so far on Day 4 scan 2 focilles again and some very small ones If ok, then start stimulation The many repeat bloodworks & ultrasoundsLast stimulation shot + triggerRetrievalSo I started my process in the mid-September and my retrieval happened in early NovemberAlso, I was on MicroFlare protocol, so I am not sure what other medications you might be taking. I am about to embark on my IVF#6 cycle (1st time at CCRM)- I've always done OCP/BCP before my IVF stim cycle(antagonist) and have produced between 15-19 eggs each time. Fingers crossed that your period waits for the right day. Below is an oversimplified way to visualize this. Our last cycle was such a bust! Hi. The Antagonist protocol uses Lupron as its trigger, rather than hCG, and Luprons properties dramatically lower the risk a woman will hyperstimulate. I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. I starts on day 1 of my cycle for 25-26 days of estrace.. Not sure why.. undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. I'm struggling not to blame myself as my husband's swimmers are per. (This was to work with their schedule, because they are closed on the weekends.) Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. They want to try the Estrogen Priming protocol with estrace and prometrium for almost 4 weeks before the stim cycle. It's possible to pay with credit card or Western Union, but PayPal isn't an option. Yea, sometimes the smallest of tweaks can make such a big difference. They monitor the follicle size and u do the trigger still so the know when to retrieve. 10 retrieved, 6 mature, 6 fertilized (half with ICSI), transferred two 8-cell embryos on day three (both with moderate fragmentation, graded B and C-), the four remaining arrested by day 5. Thanks so much! Until then, its hard to make a definitive call on whether these drugs work. An analysis that combined six extremely small studies (that in aggregate only included about 160 patients) show gains in live birth rates, as you can see below. In the next section well walk you through the mechanics of each protocol. I'm 40, doing IVFdue to age and a mc at 10 weeks due to Trisomy18. I am anxious to see if my dr recommends it. Most of the costs are for the ER visit, tests, and lab work from my night in the hospital and the weeks following. Below is a meta-analysis of 17 (relatively small) studies that, taken together, show the strategies have nearly identical pregnancy rates. We are going to bump up my gonal f too. All rights reserved. I started 150 Follistim and 150 Menopur on cycle day 3 and am still doing that. We're not even 100% sure we are staying with my current clinic but I wanted to research ahead of time either way. But not all patients respond equally to ovarian stimulation using these hormones. Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility at 40+ Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences drgolfermd Aug 14, 2015 4:53 AM Dear All: Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. From what I've seen on the boards, ladies get a higher number and higher quality. Will let you know how things go from here. Once you surge (and presumably ovulate) you count 10 days from the surge. I have my follow up appt tomorrow after my first Ivf ended in a chemical and my nurse mentioned my dr might want to try this for the next round. Ramped up to cycle on BCP for two weeks and Lupron 10 units 2x/day on stims. How does a micro-flare protocol differ from mini IVF vs natural cycle? I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. That data comes from an analysis of over 700,000 IVF cycles run by well-respected investigators at Stanford. It helps your lining and encourages your eggs to all grow at the same rate. The results are below and as you can see, success rates do seem to drop off after 300 IUs per day of gonadotropin. Just devastated with my results today so just want to cry it out and then I will respond to you. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. The company offers Elephant Gigantes seeds, as well as free seeds that come with recommended shelf life information included. I stimmed for 13 days. Doing mild IVF - and wondering how that is going to work as the test today was that i only had one follicle visible - Any idea what to expect? A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. I'm not sure what your stats are, but Check seems to have had some good success with women over 40 who have high FSH, so I'd say go with him. As you can see below, the odds of success (green line) continue to rise as more eggs are retrieved, until about 15 - 20 eggs, at which point the odds of success stop climbing and the risk of developing ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, or OHSS, (pink line) skyrockets. By and large there are two easy ways to think about protocols: how much gonadotropin (the drug that prompts follicles to grow) gets used, and what other drugs get used alongside the gonadotropin which is typically what defines a given protocol strategy. IVF#3 September 2009 - cancelled - poor response . While gonadotropin is the critical drug in most every protocol, its not the only drug. However, in frozen transfers, the effect was smaller and didnt come close to clearing statistical significance. Male factor, probably DOR and I am a poor responder to IVF drugs My clinic doesn't like it. Thanks! Was one of my worst cycles. Join Tomato Lovers & Participate in the Ukrainian Tribute Growout! As we show in the example below, during every step of IVF a certain number of eggs or embryos are lost, especially in the middle part of the funnel (growing embryos that are chromosomally normal). You currently have javascript disabled. So I guess Im asking, do you all think I should do a EPP antogonist? No it's not a "low dose" protocol exactly. As you may recall in the Revelli and Yousef studies, 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin were used, which is well higher than most things marketed as mini-stimulation approaches, and any natural (no gonadotropin) approach. Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Medical Director, REI Anyways, just wanted to mention that in case you want to ask your RE about it. But I am sure they know what they are doing at CCRM. Good luck. It will workjust have faith! Was wonderin, I just finished my 3rd failed IVF cycle using EPP. However, weve yet to see a large, rigorous, prospective, randomized trial on the subject. Thanks for well wishes. Estrogen priming is pretty standard for over 40. Most experts believe these women just dont seem to respond to increased doses and so above a pretty low threshold of gonadotropin, success rates dont seem to budge much. Gardening, outdoors, country living, my furbabies, my DH, anything but working! These drugs help a woman grow multiple follicles, and thus multiple mature eggs. Thanks! Fortunately, there are a few steps you can take to prevent and. Below you can see that when investigators gave poor responders 450 IUs or 150 IUs per day, the groups had nearly identical success rates. Dont know what. Waft really helped was upping gonal f and removing menopur. Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) are used to stimulate the ovaries to recruit and develop more than one follicle. They put me on birth control pills for a month and are skipping the early stage Estrace this time around. Best of luck to you. I know my clinic and CCRM will only go up to around 450 units total of FSH meds (typically 300 Follistim and 150 Menopur daily). Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . They suppress leading up to your cycle so that when you start the meds you get a group of follicles to grow together. Learn more about. The OOP meds program here at the Bump also was a life saver as we got meds for our 4th and 5th tries. But there is one more protocol to consider: a flare cycle. My body seemed to appreciate the extra estrogen. (Not so) Short summary - DH and I have been ttc since May 2015, two early m/c. Patients undergoing a MFP required more injections (40 vs. 26) than an EPP and spent an average of $4,375.00 compared to EPP patients who spent $5,485.00. Hello thanks for sharing. - Baseline u/s and b/w. Sign up now for your monthly dose of fertility info, experiences, and insight. Just curious to see if any out there have had any luck getting pregnant at age 43+ and produced a child through IVF. 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