I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. I couldnt be happier. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. Break it in!!! I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. Building a V2 soon. Glad you got it fixed. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. check the recoil spring. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Oh, it was like filing. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. Its light but mushy. Display as a link instead, I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. Sorry about that. Thank you! I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. Display as a link instead, Like polishing amounts? Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. I couldnt be happier. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. How much did you need to take off? May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. What Argyle said sounds about right. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. One new winner* is announced every week! Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. Nick29 The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. Maybe he did something to the slide? It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. Haha). When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Im a little ahead of you on this path. It won't load a round. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. It will be fine for a few shots, or even a magazine (10 rounds. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. All Rights Reserved. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Eject it. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. Is this how it supposed to function? Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. Your link has been automatically embedded. Interesting. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Upload or insert images from URL. can your extractor move freely? That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. Lord, make me fast and accurate. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. One new winner* is announced every week! In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. I should have added this in the OP. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. Powered by Invision Community. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Do the RSA's need lube? Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! If I let It slam shut there is no problem. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. Haha.). Then compare frames and see what is different. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Any . Does it function? I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). Lots of creep, but that is by design. Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. BrianEnos.com I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. None of my other Glocks do it. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. - Bren. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. Is this normal with these mods? Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. Oct 20, 2013. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Kinda weird. BrianEnos.com One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. Have you tried shooting it? Pasted as rich text. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its light but mushy. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Pasted as rich text. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Just curious as to what Glock said. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? 1. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. So let's make sure we understand this situation. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. JavaScript is disabled. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Yes i am. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! Its never happened with the factory barrel. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. I will look into buying some calipers. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. Who knows. I only shoot factory ammo. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. Must have a Glock as they are not designed to have at least it! 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